I’ve now got, somewhat to my surprise, 3 readers, more or less. I say surprise, because i was confidently expecting Amelie to do the ‘sometime between 7 and 8’ thing that the elder 2 have done, becasue i’d got to the point of assuming that either that was genetically or socially normal for my children, or i was such a rubbish home educator that ‘sometime between 7 and 8’ was when enough information eventually sunk in to make reading possible.
However, Amelie HASN’T done the same as the elder two, which has kind of left me with a bit of thinking to do. Something about Amelie is very different; i’m confident it isn’t environmental because i’m certainly not doing a better job of HEing than i was doing 4 years ago, nor is it the “stuff” we have, unless it’s the inclusion of a large number of ORT books in our reading scheme library, because overall we have a lot less in the way of ‘reading materials’ than we used to have. I couldn’t say it was my attitude, because although i set about Fran’s reading experience fairly robustly, it was never a bone of contention between us and we never fell out in any way. I’ve been very hands off Maddy, because to stress her is to provoke collapse and yet despite her early interest in writing and spelling and indeed her apparent ability to randomly recognise words all over the place, reading hasn’t come fast to her. Maddy seemed like she was going to read early, but she didn’t. She might have done had i pushed away at her, but i decided not to, because by that time i was watching the crumbling of another child who was being hurried into academic study. I really felt very strongly that Maddy was a child who needed every ounce of my ability to do “nothing till 7” and luckily for both of us, that has been easy enough to live up to!
A while ago, someone put a crumb of something into my head about it, pointing out that as Amelie had learned to speak a couple of years earlier than the elder 2, perhaps it wasn’t surprising that reading and language in general was coming more easily to her. That reminded me forcibly of things i know about Fran and Maddy, that are so far lost in the mist of time that it is easy to forget. Just how easy was illustrated by Max the other day; we looked after a little boy for tea, 6 months younger than Josie, who is still very much at the “look” “rabbits” “sausages” stage of conversation. Josie’s conversation was not noticeably less fluent 6 months ago than it is now; her ability to express herself is extremely sophisticated. Max remarked on D’s language and asked if it was usual and i was astonished; how could he have forgotten that Fran and Maddy were only just becoming intelligible at 3 1/2, never mind 2 1/2!?!?!?! But really, that is exactly how it was; in fact, back in the early days of this blog, much of Maddy’s emergent language is noted; at 2 1/2, she could parrot “I love ya, mom” from Barney and very little else. Though she never showed massively overt signs of echolilia, it was definitely there; very little of her speech was spontaneous and her own until she reached her second year at nursery, the year she could have been in reception. She was, from very early on, incredibly clever at covering the tracks of her difficulties – i actually think she is less good at hiding them now than she was as a 3 year old. When she and i looked at books together, she would obsessively pick out certain words, “I” (but not “i”) and “like” (but not “likes”) without any interest in the story as a whole; come to think of it, Fran had almost no interest in books at all, not on her own, not with a parent, not at playgroup. She ripped them, she pulled them off shelves, but she didn’t look at them and she didn’t particularly want to hear them until she was 4 or so. I didn’t read her her first chapter book until she was 6, before that her concentration simply wasn’t there. And in all those things, she and Maddy, 2 years her junior, reached the same levels of concentration ability at the same time as Fran, rather than at the same age.
Josie and Amelie are really different; neither of them have ever intentionally destroyed a book and they’ve looked at and absorbed them since they were tiny things. They’ve been able to tell a story from pictures from very little, by which i mean normally little not exceptionally little, and they’ve always enjoyed being read to. Neither has picked out words early, but they can hear a “joke” in the form of a quote from a story, something that used to go over Fran and Maddy’s head. If you’d made up a Charlie and Lola-esque quote to Maddy, she’d have panicked cos you didn’t have it right. Josie laughs and plays along. If i try to think what has been different for the younger two, it is hard to put my finger on something that might be environmentally more stimulating. They watch less tv that the old ones did, mainly because they have a much better grasp of imaginative play and so play more. The tv they do watch is probably better, more sophisticated, more tuned towards educational learning goals and aimed at older children. They mix with a wider age range of children and get proportionally more opportunity for conversation, but then, they CAN converse so doing so is infinitely more appealing. It isn’t like i ignored my first 2 children, far from it, but it was exhausting to try and engage them all day. At 3 Fran still hadn’t made it passed ‘point, grunt, affect outrage and then screech’ as a communication method. She sole ‘playing’ was to scatter things on the floor. Maddy didn’t play, unless you count finding two objects that vaguely matched and acting out a solitary scene from A Bug’s Life; Maddy lay on the floor by the tv and watched Peter Pan and Toy Story. Fran and Maddy did make it to reinacting Dsoney on their own, but it was Amelie that taught those 2 to use their imaginations with toys. Conversely, Amelie and Josie rarely play out film scenes or use film characters, with the notable exception of a Doctor Who scene they do as a party piece.
Which leads me back to wondering if i somehow “put them off” learning to read, but there, i have to say, i think not. Certainly, the big test of home educating among the masses seems to be “is she reading yet?” and i certainly felt that pressure, but i can also remember that a lot of my inclination to get Fran reading was because she was so thirty for knowledge, so hard to entertain and so frustrated by the fact that i couldn’t always jump to her needs. Even before BM got so huge, Fran wasn’t reading when Josie was born and the strain of “being a home educator” and having 4 non readers, felt a bit huge. If it had ever become a fight or a strain between us, i might think that my need for her to read had affected her but in fact, it was a perfectly amiable process. And even then, there has been almost no process at all for Maddy, certainly no pressure of any sort, and that didn’t hasten her towards reading.
With Fran, the process was a pretty consistant slow burn from the age of 4ish onwards. I did some P&J with her shortly before Amelie was born, then nothing because she clearly wasn’t ready. That was an anathema to me, as i could read at 3, but the new baby let me let it go. I can clearly remember blogging at around her 6th birthday that we would do “a bit a day” from now on and that meant a little bit of Explode the Code, a little bit of writing and a reading book; slowly, slowly, that built up a reading ability without which, i am utterly convinced, she would not have had the building blocks for her eventual “explosion into reading” which happened when she was around 7 1/2. Thank the reading gods for fairy books; even then, it took a long, long time before she would challenge herself at all and only very recently has she begun to pick up books that stretch her. But then, looking at her reading Dr Dolittle, i think that if she were in school they’d not now be remotely bothered if ORT Treetop books were still the height of her interest, even though she’d have been harried to “get on, get on” at 5 and 6 years old.
Fran had lots of things at her disposal; Montessori materials, computer games, endless books and a very interested in helping mother. But letters and words didn’t motivate her, neither did a “need to read” seem to inspire her particularly. When it cames to words, i think she was just pretty lazy. Briefly Animal Crossing inspired her, but not massively; for Fran, reading did seem to be an accumulation of skillsand fact that eventually added up to an ability to decode language, much as speaking was achieved like that. Fran learned to speak quite differently to her peers; there was no opportunity to copy, repeat, experiment and experience delight with language for her. Every sound was fought for; i still remember her achieving b’s and p’s finally after a weekend at granny’s. Often her greatest efforts still went passed without people understanding, which must have been demoralising for her. Perhaps, having missed out on language being learned in a fluid and linear manner once, the building blocks were not there for reading? Or maybe she really was distracted by computer games and tv and too many toys. It’s hard to know; i think not, but it is hard to know.
Maddy didn’t get any reading “help” until she was nearly 7; then it was mainly EC and StudyDog and we’ve only begun to actively read books together in the last few months with any consistency. Some days it is easy for her, somedays it is like she has a different brain in. With Maddy it seems to be a matter of confidence still, she thinks she can’t, or perhaps she doesn’t entirely want to. Despite her fascination with writing, drawing and letters, her desire to read is really not that strong. And that’s okay. She does rely on Fran a lot though and really, if you’ve got to the point at 7 1/2 where you want to know whaty it says, perhaps you should read it yourself?
Something i’ve noticed since Amelie started to read, is that Fran and Maddy still seem to be missing “something” in their reading armoury. I’m not sure entirely what it is, or indeed whether i ought to worry about it or if it’s an actual “thing” or just something that will go as they mature. They still seem to lack a certain “decoding” knack – they often skate passed a difficult word, or get it quite wrong and out of context, or just fail to sound it out at all. Maddy is still at the “it begins with th- so it could well be the” stage, though it is passing. Fran just still seems to lack the inner patience to stop and say “hang on, could it be x?” or “hang on, it just can’t be x….” I only notice it because Amelie seems to have already estblished that this is a skill worth having.
What i can say for definite though is if Amelie’s learning process is what most of my friends children have done, what i have experienced with my elder children was NOT a normal learning to read process. Something was amiss. Amelie is utterly different. She sees word patterns, hears and sees word likenesses; she makes intelligent guesses based on the context, the letters, the sounds she can see. She wants to learn and to know and to understand those letters and what they add up to. This is a girl who grabs a level 2 book and does it, sees there are no level 3s and so decides she can probably manage level 4. This child wants to be on, fast, cleverly and with meaning. She looks at the pictures but she doesn’t make up a sentence to fit them, she looks at the words and then makes educated guesses about the bits she didn’t know. Amelie remembers a word from one day to the next, from one book to the next, whether it is in Times font or Comic Sans. She doesn’t mind if an name is in one book for a dog and in another for a child. She”ll try a few times, read on her own, write on her own. If Amelie’s reading learning curve is a normal expression of a child being inspired and able to decode and learn, then it is a very, very different thing to what Fran and Maddy did so torturously. Hopefully, Josie will be more like Amelie.
It was only fairly recently that i discovered that Max clearly recalls learning to read at 8 years old, so maybe we just ended up with two eldest child who were more like him. I know he rarely spoke as a young child but i’d never really equated these two things as perhaps being linked until recently. But just as my more physical children have toilets and run earlier than they’ve spoke and my more verbal children have been less physcially boisterous, perhaps it shouldn’t be any surprise to me that the two children who needed the attentions of endless Speech and Language Therapists, should have been slow developers at decoding and making use of written language too.
Kirsty says
haven’t had chance to read this as well as I’d like, fighting a horrible cold type thing, but shall no doubt return and read more. I can completely understand everything you wrote. M and A are both going to be late readers I think and I’m fine with that now. I think I always assumed all children would read at around 5 ish if we gave them all the opportunities and never pshed them. It was the pushing them that I think I thought made it hard for schooled kids. Now though I do think there is a big difference between how some kids read and others.
I do find it really interesting, if a little hard to cope with. the milestone is the reading thing isn’t it and it’s the one thing people ask about so it’s hard not to feel like you’re a complete failure (I know, been there and still doing it!)
Kirsty says
oh and I definitely don’t think that what Amelie is doing is ‘normal’ any more than what Fran and Maddie have been doing. i think they just learned differently to what Amelie is. there are so many children who learn like that so they’re def not abnormal 🙂 Ugh, could write more but head pounding.
Claire says
I don’t think there is any definitive normal in learning to read. I recognise the way Maddy read & decoded to me last week in some of the children I’ve worked with and with Charlie’s best friend from school. Whereas it sounds like Charlie learnt just like Amelie is. Both are normal. I think your point about physical ability is interesting too as Charlie was verbal exceptionally early and wasn’t particularly physically boisterous until he was, well 7!
t-bird says
intereesting points there. I will confess to fretting about my “late talking late reader” at times (and utterly desparing of her ever progressing at times too!) but of course, we don’t all do things at the same time and it’s far better that they do it in their own time and with a degree of willingness than be draged kicking and screaming before they are ready adn end up demoralised.
Will someone remind me of this next time I’m wailing about her not reading yet???
Carol says
I found this really interesting. N is more like Amelie whereas A and E are like Maddie and Fran. I am not sure one way is more ‘normal’ than another and the result will likely be the same.
Thanks for writing this
C
x
Lucy says
I don’t know how my children are going to be yet. Ms R is huge into writing letters, recognising words and enjoying stories but it could go either way. I’m hoping (because she’s my first child and HE is new to me and I’m scared) that it’ll continue and by the time she’s five she’ll be reading some stuff by herself but I know that she could stop at this level and not make any more progress for another two or three years, which from what I’ve read is not abnormail. Master R loves stories and keeps asking what things say so potentially could be a taught himself reader by three but I doubt it. Dyslexia runs along the male line in our family so I’m going to tread carefully and celebrate that he at least enjoys books.
Wobblymoo says
I definately think its just an individual thing, my oldest was a very early reader, my youngest who is now 7 is i suspect going to be a very late one although I am confident it still will come, I can imagine I will start to panic soon lol
Allie says
It seems to me that your observations are probably spot on. If someone finds language a tricky thing then the written expression of it is likely to be less obvious, or to require more effort to decode.
I think you should be proud of your ability to provide what each of your individual children need. You’re clearly doing a fine job there. 🙂
Ruth says
I think you could be onto something with the speech. My eldest two aspies read fluently 4 and 5 but had no language difficulites. My hearing impaired dd didn’t read well until she was 10 and my NT dd came out of school at 7 unable to read much but took off as soon as she was HE. The two youngest are so different to the older ones. ASD B was non verbal until he was nearly 4 but I am sure he can read but rarely shows he can. His twin reads now but is hearing impared( as well as ASD) and finds it hard to make progress cos he can’ t hear sounds well. I think gentics come iot paly too. I read at 3 but dh didn’t read until he was 12 and has dyslexia.
Whatever you are doing is working so well done 🙂
dawniy says
I hope you don’t mind me popping this here. i hope you’ll feedback what you think .
Because we have an adult blogring – I’ve just made Young Peoples Home Ed Blogring
if you visit http://youngpeopleshomeedblogring.blogspot.com/ you will find the links box for our younger ones to join in with a ring for them 🙂
The blogring can also be found on http://www.ourlearningtogether.com
dawniy xx
Julie says
I love this post – so insightful. It really hightlights how different children are in learning to read. My very articulate daughter has only just reached a point where I can confidently say ‘Yes, she reads’ (at 9), whilst my more mathematically minded boy (7) is picking up the basics beautifully.
Hope you dont mind, but I have made this post ‘blogpost of the week’ over on my blog.
Julie.
dawniy says
(the previous blog ring thing didn’t work.) Hope you don’t mind us popping in to let you know we’ve now succeeded in making an easy to use blog ring where our young people of any age can keep in touch with each other.
Our Space Blogring
We will need a permission email from a parent for anyone who is under the age of 14. This Blogring will not be advertised outside of our blogging community.
Only Lana and dawniy can add blogs to this ring and will be checking our younger people are safe.
Please visit us at http://ourspaceblogring.blogspot.com for details of how to join and our email address.
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